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Questions
Frequently asked by Rookies
How do I get to
Glamis?
That depends on where
youre coming from and where you want to camp. Your best bet
from San Diego and Arizona is to get an Arizona and/or California
map. For those of you from Southern California, follow this link
for precise directions.
What is the camping
like? ?
The popular term is
"Dry camping." That is to say there are no water, sewer
hookups, or electrical outlets. You are on your own and must be
self sufficient. The only thing supplied by the government is a
few pit toilets, a few porta-potties, some asphalt campgrounds,
some camping pads (gravel), and plenty of sand. You can camp anywhere
in the sand as long as you are 10 ft. or more from the road. Youd
better have 4 wheel drive for that.
What kind of riding
is there?
99.99% is sand hills
and "sand highways". The tallest dunes are over 200 feet
from their base and tend to scare newcomers by their height alone.
There are a few hard pack areas by the tracks and the canal (see
below) but are no fun to ride.
Are there water
and restrooms available?
Water no. There a few
pit toilets in the paved campgrounds and a few porta-potties scattered
along Gecko Road. Showers can be purchased at the Store (see below).
Is there a camping
fee?
Yes. $25 per week
per primary vehicle or a $90 yearly pass. See (Fees). A primary
vehicle is any vehicle that is not an OHV (off-highway vehicle).
If you drive the Motor home and your wife or friend(s) drive a car,
you need to have a pass for both. At last count, there are 17 vending
machines where you can buy permits. They accept credit cards and
cash.
Is there a gas station
there?
No.
Can I shoot a gun
there?
No - SHOOTING
IS PROHIBITED WITHIN ½ MILE OF CAMPGROUNDS AND SHOULD BE
CONDUCTED WELL AWAY FROM OTHER CONCENTRATIONS OF PEOPLE AND PROPERTY.
Are there trash
cans there?
No, but there are huge
dumpsters placed at strategic spots. Be sure to place your trash
INSIDE them and not around them.
What happens if
I get hurt?
Depends on how bad.
If you can get yourself off the dunes, you can probably get yourself
to Pioneers Memorial Healthcare,
phone number and address is available from the link. If you are
too injured, the rangers will attempt to go get you in the dunes
and put you on an ambulance to Brawley. This could take from several
hours to a day or more if they cant find you in the dunes.
If you have a cell phone, you can dial 911 and be connected to the
Cahuilla Ranger station: GPS coordinates will greatly speed things
up.
How big is the place
and how do I find my way around?
BIG! Really Big. The
dunes are 3 to 5 miles wide and about 16 miles long from Hwy. 78
to Hwy. 8. The best way to find your way around is by GPS. Heres
a link to the most popular coordinates: GPS
If you dont have
a GPS its still relatively easy to find the major hills and
campgrounds. Glamis runs on a diagonal. If you look at a map, it
looks like it goes from the top left to the lower right. For the
most part people just use North, East, West and South when referring
to directions out there since it very nearly runs North and South.
So for simplicity sake, Ill do the same here. The West side
has a canal running along it, East has a railroad along it, North
would be Hwy. 78 and South is Hwy. 8. Picture it as a big tall rectangle.
The Glamis Store (see #11 below) is at the upper right northeast)
corner by the tracks and Hwy. 78. The developed campgrounds are
on the canal side. There are thousands of acres of camping on the
railroad side use the road along the tracks to get to them.
The BLM is now grading this road periodically.
The tracks go
over several washes. Each wash has a bridge. Each one is numbered,
some very elaborately. If you
know what number bridge at which youre camped, you can know
which way camp is. The numbers start at the Store and get higher
the farther south you go that is to say, they increase
to the right As seen from the air, all the major hills are
in a row. These are also numbered. The BLM has numbered signs
on them starting at Hwy. 78. If you want to go from hill to hill,
just ride due north or south, depending on which way youre
traveling across the dunes. Aim for the next highest point you can
see. Theres always a big valley at the base of each of the
major hills. You might have to ride up or down the valley to find
the gathering spot. If you are going for help, be sure that you
know to what number hill you need to return to. The rangers will
know what to punch up on their GPS.
If you are deep in
the middle of the dunes and it starts to get late, what do you do?
That depends on where you are camped and how much fuel you have
left. Generally, you can climb a tall dune and see where the tracks
and canal are. Pay attention to the sun (sets in the west, remember).
If youre running low on fuel, or even THINK you are, head
for the tracks or canal directly. This depends on what side you
camped, naturally. This is because it is much easier to walk out
if you have to on hard level ground. Upon reaching either, its
easy to figure out which way to go. The bridges are numbered and
the water in the canal flows toward the developed campgrounds and
hwy. 78. If youre SURE youve got plenty of gas, head
right into the sun to get back to Roadrunner and Gecko. Works every
time and is a fun ride. If youre camped down by Dunebuggy
Flats, just head toward the canal and parallel it while staying
on the dunes heading south. Theres no sure fire way to find
a camp along the tracks until you develop a feel for the place.
Head diagonally in the general direction until you hit the tacks
and can read a bridge number.
Is there a store
close by?
Yes and no. The nearest
supermarket is in Brawley about 30 miles away. There is a
store called the Glamis Beach Store where the tracks and Hwy. 78
meet. Theyll have necessities you may have forgotten and a
limited parts selection; hose clamps, a few belts mostly
generic stuff. Theres a restaurant and a bar there too. You
can pay for a shower there. Its worth a trip there just to
get familiar with the place.
If I have a break
down or need a repair, what can I do?
The town of El Centro
has a full blown Honda/Kawasaki/Yamaha dealer with a machine shop.
Take Hwy. 86 south out of Brawley its on the right
several miles down. They stock many popular pistons, rings, tires,
etc., etc. Brawley wont be much help unless what you need
can be purchased at an auto parts store. Clean Genes, across
the street from the Store, has a supply of parts and welding services.
Across from the Ranger station on Gecko Road just south of 78 is
Sweet Marie's she has a supply of parts and welding services.
Doug can weld up just about anything.
Where are the campgrounds?
Some of the most popular
campgrounds are:
Roadrunner at
the end of Gecko Road
Pads 1- 4 along
Gecko Road; youll see the signs
Gecko Campground
about halfway down Gecko Road from Hwy. 78
Dunebuggy Flats
off Hwy. 8 by the canal
Cement Flats - just
off Hwy. 78 as you turn onto Gecko Road - its on the right
Garbage Flats
on the flats by the store on the way to Competition Hill next to
Hwy. 78
Microwave Tower
north of Hwy. 8 take Ted Kipf Rd to road on dune side of
tracks look for tall (200+ ft) tower.
Glamis Flats right
by store and theres an access road to it off Hwy. 78
Ive heard
there are bars and food places out there - where?
All the following have
food and drink (alcoholic and non).
Boardmanville
go to wash 10, go under tracks, keep going about 1 mile cant
miss it
Pair-A-Dice
take plenty of gas and
allow all day for this one if youre camping at Gecko or Roadrunner
best bet is to take sand highway south (about 3 dunes in
off the canal) to Hwy. 8, turn right, go about 1.5 miles
youll see it leave for home early enough to handle
any problems in daylight take the dunes back (if they are
open) if you have the time and gas.
The Store Hwy.
78 and the tracks
Can I ride at night?
You sure can
be aware it is dangerous in the dunes at night and hard to find
your way. Youll need the required lights and a jacket. We
suggest taking a flashlight as well. REMEMBER: quiet time is from
10:00 PM to 7:00 AM: you can run your engines only to get in or
out of camp. See the rules for a complete
list.
What is the weather
like?
Temperatures from June
through September can go over 120° during the day and not go below
100° at night. From Oct. to May we look for 70° to 80° during the
day and 40° to 50° at night. When a front or storm blows through
the winds can get up to 50 or 60 MPH. Rain is seldom but does occur.
Check the weather on our web site before you go, pack light and
heavy clothes just in case.
What is the BLM?
It is the government
agency we, as taxpayers, designate to oversee areas like this. They
are The Bureau of Land Management. It is their job to see that the
land is preserved. It is in their best interest that Glamis stay
open for us to ride. They listen to us through the TRT to see how
we want our fees spent. To fully explain the mission of the BLM
and TRT here is not
practical, but you can go to their web sites to learn more.
Do I need any special
equipment?
First Aid kit, goggles,
bandana, sun block, whip, paddles, water, firewood, tow strap, plenty
of gas, common sense.
A friend of mine
got hurt there. He said he was riding along and the bottom just
dropped out from under him how can that happen?
Easy. The dunes will
lull you into a false sense of security. Just when you think it
is safe to open it up, youre going off a slip face (miniature
cliff) and youre 15 feet in the air. You are caught off guard
and you generally go over the handle bars. Never go out alone and
never out ride your "look ahead" range. If you cant
see whats ahead, approach it as you would a small cliff
more often than not, youll be glad you did.
Can I get a DUI
off road?
Absolutely! All rules
of the road apply off-road.
What if I become
separated from my riding group?
Never ride the dunes
alone he person in trouble.
Is there a phone
out there?
Yes, several.
South of the Ranger
Station Gecko Rd.
Glamis Store, SR 78
Agricultural Inspection
Station, I-8
Sand Hills Rest Area,
I-8
Pair-A-Dice store
just off I-8 (old hwy. 80)
Buttercup Campground
Plank Road Site
Where is the
Cahuilla Ranger Station?
Just South of SR 78
on Gecko Road
Other things to
know:
1) Stay with your ATV
while waiting for help the ATV is almost always spotted first.
2) Range is limited
sand eats up gas you cant go as far as sand
as you can on the hard pack.
3) Carry water, tools
Murphys Law is in full force out on the dunes.
4) An ounce of prevention
is worth a pound of cure maintain you vehicle. Even if you
do get towed back to camp, youve spoiled someone elses
ride.
DISPOSE
OF YOUR TRASH PROPERLY, PACK IT IN
. PACK IT OUT
AND
THE SAME GOES FOR THE CAMPGROUNDS
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